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Dzogchen
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Posted: 11/20/06, 5:07 PM

Monks - HP / ATK
Eggy
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Posted: 11/20/06, 7:04 PM

I agree with SK by AC when they get up to a certain point in HPs. Or maybe, HPs, when they get to a certain point in AC... hum.. My earlier opinion stands: just let people sort how they want, this can vary on levels and by person. No way is it going to get resolved in this thread for SK's.
TobermoryTo
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Posted: 11/20/06, 11:47 PM

Bards Got to be HP and AC. Mana is an irrelevance abouve about 4-5k.
Most bards would say hp >> ac (I really would beg to differ there, but this isnt the place to discuss personal opinion on the relative merit of stats). Therefore sort order for the majority should be 1. HP, 2. AC..


Crillan
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Posted: 11/21/06, 12:47 AM

Rogues should be ranked by dps. That is by weapon ratios, atk, accuracy and backstab damage for pure stats. Next place for dps is from AA's mostly and then procs, combat effects and strikethrough.

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filter
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Posted: 11/21/06, 1:51 AM

Druids: Mana, HP.
Ranger00
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Posted: 11/21/06, 2:41 AM

Rogues : Accuracy - backstab and then~ spell sheild - sheilding - dot - hps


Also people over the mod2 cap shouldn't gain additional ranking for it.
Rhynoe
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Posted: 11/21/06, 8:28 AM

SK's = AC
falgurana
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Posted: 11/21/06, 8:49 AM

Well the second order is only used if the first is equal for two players, right ?
If so the second order doesnt matter for me, cause the probability is enourmous seldom.
Enchanter 1st : HP 2nd: Resists (if neccessary) . Resists to resist AE .
Grobobos
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Posted: 11/21/06, 9:18 AM

SK : 1) AC
2) HP

AC because its the most important stat for us.
HP because it gives you an idea on where progression wise the SK stands.. not because HP is important.. sadly AC hasn't gone up with progression as HP has...
Xarrias
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Posted: 11/21/06, 11:08 AM

Monk-hp
warrior-hp
paladin-hp
shadow knight-hp
beastlord-hp
cleric-mana
shaman-mana
druid-mana
wizard-mana
.
.
.

should get the idea by now

Melee-hybrid = hp
Caster-priest = mana
Tilluan AB
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Posted: 11/21/06, 12:19 PM

Druid:

AA > Mana > HP (Mana is often linked to HP), both are important, but most important are the advanced abilities.

Nandail
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Posted: 11/21/06, 1:00 PM

Tanks (Warriors/SK's/Pallys):

The ranking should be by some Tanking Power stat, not by any one stat.

Most competent tanks know that AC is king, so if it has to be just one stat, it should be AC. However, a much betterr way to rank would be with some form of a combined stat based on AC.

Let's call it "Tankability Score" and you get points for the following:

1 ac = 1 point
7 hps = 1 point
1 shielding = 28 points - assuming we wanted 1000 points for capped sheilding. Should be debated. May be too high.
1 avoidance = 8 points - assuming we wanted 800 points for capped avoidance. Should be debated. May be too high.

There might be a couple other stats to throw in, but either way it should really be some combined score.

Look at myself. I have 3230ac and 11500 hps. I'll be ranked fairly high simply because my AC is crazy high for the hps. But in reality, someone with 3000ac 14000hps is probably a better tank. AC alone just does not give a valid way to rank.

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Shariza
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Posted: 11/21/06, 1:00 PM

SKs should be ac first
Dohse
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Posted: 11/21/06, 2:28 PM

Paladin - AC, HP
Shadowknight - AC, HP
Warrior - AC, HP

Cleric - HP, Mana
Shaman - HP, Mana
Druid - Mana, HP

Bard - HP, AC
Beast - HP, Atk
Berserker - HP, Atk
Monk - HP, AC
Ranger - HP, Atk
Rogue - HP, Atk

Enchanter - HP, Mana
Magician - Mana, HP
Necromancer - HP, Mana
Wizard - Mana, HP

Just my 2¢

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psychosis
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Posted: 11/21/06, 2:28 PM

Beastlords = HP > AC > ATK > AA