Login / Sign up
> > > Ranking Round Table – Sorting classes


Messages in topic: Ranking Round Table – Sorting classes
Grinder
Registered User

Nbr post: 1
Register: 3/10/03
Posted: 11/18/06, 11:31 AM

SK = AC > HP
Croix Vorabaddon
Registered User

Nbr post: 5
Register: 7/9/04
Posted: 11/18/06, 11:59 AM

Shadowknights: AC, Spell Shielding. ((Shielding's easy to max. SS is not so ))
Fairystear
Registered User

Nbr post: 1
Register: 1/29/03
Posted: 11/18/06, 12:43 PM

Enchanter
1. stat HP
2. stat mana

if there isnt 2 choices then I would vote mana
VOIDUS
Registered User

Nbr post: 1
Register: 10/28/04
Posted: 11/18/06, 2:29 PM

Shadowknight = AC > AA > HP
calliopeia
Registered User

Nbr post: 60
Register: 7/4/02
Posted: 11/18/06, 3:16 PM

Bards - HP then AC at level 75

Before 70, HP and mana
Lealani
Registered User

Nbr post: 1
Register: 9/9/04
Posted: 11/18/06, 3:44 PM

druids - hp then mana
jeffanthonyfds
Registered User

Nbr post: 3
Register: 11/6/04
Posted: 11/18/06, 4:15 PM

Can you use focus effects and things like Shielding for the list?

Tank types should be something like (HP + (5 *AC up to the softcab avoidance mods offer) + AC over softcap) * (1+Shielding %) ... it won't return a very usable number but will put them in a ranking order that actually matters in the game

My real main is a rogue though and I always wished there was a calculation that could sort dps a little more accurately, something like (PimaryWeaponDamage/delay + Secondary WeaponDamage/delay) * attack
Murgutk
Registered User

Nbr post: 3
Register: 7/4/04
Posted: 11/18/06, 4:15 PM

Shadowknight should be sorted AC then Shielding or avoidance. And it would be nice if Magelo could not continue to add AC value to Avoidance over 100 which skews the actual AC number thereby making it not accurate and hard to compare e-peni. (Is peni plural for penis...? Well it is now.)
jeffanthonyfds
Registered User

Nbr post: 3
Register: 11/6/04
Posted: 11/18/06, 4:18 PM

Almost forgot.. Mages, Wizards, Necros – Focus Effects are the key

Pet Foci, Usable Nukage and DoT focuses for the level they are at, my wife is a Mage and even though she's hell bent on getting a larger mana pool, she'd happily give up 100 mana for a better nuke focus that works better at level 75.
Kroolhand
Registered User

Nbr post: 1
Register: 3/5/04
Posted: 11/18/06, 6:57 PM

Shadowknight = AC first, anything else 2nd.
Chania
Registered User

Nbr post: 1
Register: 10/17/01
Posted: 11/18/06, 7:26 PM

SK's

AC then HP

All tank classes really, Paladins and Warriors too should be AC -> HP
Bolas
Registered User

Nbr post: 75
Register: 3/2/02
Posted: 11/18/06, 9:09 PM

>Yes but Warriors are the only tanks who get the HP AAs is my point. Everyone gets the Avoidance and Mitigation AAs. /bonk

Hmm... sk's get natural durability and planar durability, pretty sure these are hp aa's.

Sk's are the only ones to get damage shield aa's, but you don't see us clamoring to be ranked by damage shield.

Let the warriors be ranked by ac, maybe then they'll start focusing more on a stat that matters instead of just looking at hp.



# http://eq.magelo.com/profile/429220
Bolas
Registered User

Nbr post: 75
Register: 3/2/02
Posted: 11/18/06, 9:29 PM

One of the main things that I'd like to see is the key stats that matter to tanking to show up on the list when it's sorted. Right now, when you list out the rankings, you don't see shielding and avoidance and spell shield on the page at all. And you do see regen and mana regen, which could be ditched in favor of shielding and avoidance and possibly spellshield.

Currently displayed:

Name Server Level AA HP MANA AC ATK HASTE HP+ MANA+

Recommended display:

Name Server Level AA HP MANA AC ATK HASTE SHIELDING AVOIDANCE SPELLSHIELD

-Bolas



# http://eq.magelo.com/profile/429220
Strost
Registered User

Nbr post: 13
Register: 11/24/01
Posted: 11/18/06, 11:42 PM

Not to be negative about the subject, but it is your RT. I have no plan to use sorting anyways so in my case, and those who don't use it, it doesn't matter either way what you use as a filter string.
Draegox
Registered User

Nbr post: 1
Register: 7/30/05
Posted: 11/19/06, 1:06 AM

Being a SK, 4 things matter.

1. AC
2. Shielding (max 35)
3. Avoidance (max 100)
4. HP

I would like to see that come up for WAR/PAL/SHD, because neither just HP/AC determines if a tank is up for the job, you need to see the other modifiers, so if possible I'd suggest adding those in when rank searches come up for those classes.